Flynn

Flynn:

Before you read:  I had a teacher in middle school who always talked to the guys about sports, college football and basketball, he would only talk to the guys about sports, and I took offense to that because I followed college football and basketball religiously, but my thoughts did not matter since the teacher would only talk to the guys, sometimes the guys knew less about the particular game than I did.

Summary: Flynn's article composing as women focuses on feminism. She explains interesting differences between boys and girls relationships with others, including their mother and father figures. Also she talks about the differences in girls and boy writing as students for school.

Synthesis: Flynn's article "composing as women can be related to Milanowitz, both authors talk about identity effecting a students writing. In Flynn's case it is the difference between male and female, and Milanowitz, is discussing sexuality. Flynn can also be connected to Wysocki, she talked about females being used in a provocative was in advertising. How women are looked at sometimes as items rather than as people. This also connects to Berger in the same way. "ways of seeing" was about women being posed for painting and how women are still posed for photos today. How these photos portray an identity for the women that can effect her in the world and in her writing.

Response	Quotation
I liked this quote because in todays society it is important that girls understand that they can make in the the world of professions just as much as guys can.	"it is not easy to think like a women in a man's world, in the world of the professions, yet the capacity to do that is a strength which we can try to help our students develop"
This quote is so true. since the beginning of history it has always been men that have dominated. but as time has continued on. you see how differences between men and women are slowly being erased so that they can be equal in society. we see changes in salaries  stereo typing jobs to genders. we see more stay at home dads instead of only moms.. etc.	"The argue that men have chronicled our historical narratives and defined our fields of inquiry. Women's perspectives have been suppressed, silenced, marginalized, written out of what counts as authoritative knowledge. Difference is erased in a desire to universalize."
This is something that is always talked about when new children are born, like how children form bonds with a specific parent right away. I never thought of how that may effect the child when learning to communicate with others later down the line in life.	"Girls identification processes, then , are more continuously embedded in and mediated by their ongoing relationship with their mothers... A boys identification processes are not likely to be so embedded in or mediated by a real affective relation to his father. At the same time, he tends to deny identification with and relationship to his mother and reject what he takes to be the feminine world."
I thought this was interesting because I had never thought of this before, but it seems to be true. I think it would be fun to look at what every one in our class would write about and see if guys and girls meet these gender writing types.	"The narratives of female students are stories of interaction, of connection or frustrated connection. The narratives of the male students are stories of achievement of separation  or of frustrated achievement. "

QD 3: Silencing of women's voices relates to the marginalizing of minority groups because the majority group dominate over the minority like men have done to women for decades, making the minority voice smaller and smaller till soon they wont have a voice, and they will have to go through a suffrage movement to win it back.

Thoughts: Overall I did not mind Flynn I thought her points were interesting. and her perspective about gender was good. I liked that it was shorter than what we have been reading and she used examples that helped further her point about male and female students writing being effected by their gender.

Project 3 progress report

Project three has started slowly. I have written a portion of the introduction. and I posted my interview questions to a group on facebook that contains many members from the discourse community I am looking at. I have received a few responses and I am hoping for more in the next two days. Otherwise my plan for wednesday and thursday is to really form my ideas and the main arguments of my paper. and then finalize what needs to be finalized on friday.

Villanueva

Villanueva:

Before you read:
Last year I took a comparative religion class, and we would have guest speakers come in to speak about the ins and outs of their particular religion. During the time we were learning about Islam we had a muslim come to speak to our class. At first I was skeptical about Islam because of the stereotypes that are labeled with it. After meeting the speaker, and hearing about the religion my mind was opened to new ideas, and helped break down those stereotypes. 


Summary: Villanueva's essay "memoria is a friend of ours: on the discourses of color is about the discourse communities that different races, or ethnicity's form. He uses examples of poems written by people that come from these communities. He also talks about how the rhetoric is connected to these communities. 

Synthesis: Villanueva can be synthesized with porter intertextuality and discourse community because this esay also talks about discourse community.  It can be connected to Heilker and Yergeau because hat one connects rhetoric and the discourse community of autism together like the essay by Villanueva talks about how rhetoric connects to the minority discourse communities. Villanueva can connect to all the other authors that mention discourse community. and lastly Villanueva relates to language because he talks about the importance of passing the culture and language down to children and talking to elders about stories of the culture. 

Response	Quotation
	"And I'd say the need to reclaim and retain the memory of the imperial lords, those who have forcibly changed the identities of people of color through colonization. "
I liked this quote because it is always special to grandparents when they talk to their grandchildren and it would make it even more special for the child to call their grandfather abuelo. to continue the culture.	"Remember to call your grandpa abuelo. He'll like the sound of that, since none of my sister's kids have called him that."
I think no matter if you are belong to a minority or not you always are affected by racism.	"Yet little things happen that betray the underlying racism that affects us all, no matter how appalled by racism we might be."
I thought this was interesting. because its true when I look at my	"Those of us who are light-skinned don't pass for white; we're just not automatically sorted into the appropriate slot."
From an academic standpoint the minority races seem to group themselves together. At school you tend to see the same cultural groups eat together at meals and hangout in the same clubs. this helps them form a stronger discourse community.	"Academic discourse tries, after all, to reach the Aristotelian ideal of being completely logocentric, though it cannot be freed of the ethical appeal to authority."
"Reading this I wish I knew more about my own heritage, anytime I ask my family where our ancestors came from."	"Now some part of that first impulse reasserts itself, fictionalizing, telling the story, reaching back to the heritage that is at risk of passing away quickly."

AE: after googling the phrase it says the phrase meant to imply  something like “improving oneself by one’s own efforts”  I think that in order for a group to gain status in america they need to hold on to their own culture and heritage.

Thoughts: I didn't connect with this article very well, I thought it was slightly boring. and I just don't connect to writing thats in a different language. I thought it was harder to understand because i didn't connect to the reading. I do think that it is important for children to talk to their elders about their background because elders like talking about that sort of thing. and it also lets the kids be more aware of cultures.

Heilker and Yergeau

Heilker and Yergeau:

Summary: In Heilker and Yergeau's essay Autism and Rhetoric they list examples of how autism is more in the media today to bring awareness such as, Parenthood, a tv show on NBC its story line is about a family with an autistic child. The essay continues to say how autism is still on of he greatest mysteries of medicine. Heilker and Yergeau tell their perspectives of autism in a story form. Heilker having a son that is autistic and Yergeau being autistic herself. They both share views of how autism is a rhetoric.

Synthesis: I think this can first connect to Devitt. Devitt explores the use genre in a discourse community, a person with autism would use different genres than "neurotypicals" to learn the same thing. This is what helps form the community of individuals with autism. This connects to Gee because gee says that discourses can over lap. An autistic student brings their disability into other discourses they find them selfs in. Maybe they are really good at art, or music, they can use the genres they learn in the discourse community, in their art or music. Heilker and Yergeau can relate to swales but not because they are similar. Doctors and specialist while they are experts on the topic of autism they do not share the same thoughts as the people with autism.

Response	Quotation
I think it is really sad that she had to feel less than everyone else. People with autism can be just as talented and intelligent as people with out autism. and they may even excel at thing people without autism cant.	"For instance, I grew up understanding autism (that is, my way of being in the world through language, through invention, structure, and style) as distinctly"less than"."
this is just one example of how a child/ person with autism can be bright and see things that others may not see.	"The second of these is Eli's remarkable ability to find points of intersection between divergent data sets"
it is important that people with out autism are open to learn about it, how to interact with people who are autistic. the best way to learn the about it is to listen.	"Ratcliffe writes: "rhetorical listening signifies a stance of openness that a person may choose to assume in cross-cultural exchanges"
I had never thought of how the puzzle piece of Autism speaks could be so miss leading and judgmental.	" Puzzle pieces hold a special place in my heart. that is, i hate them. They symbolize so much of what is wrong with popular autism discourse - representing autistic people as puzzling, mysterious  less than human entities who are "short a few cognitive pieces, who are utterly self contained, disconnected and need to fit in. :
I remember in school, there were classes for the "lower"vs "high functioning" autistic children. They are all children who deserve the best education, and are all talented in their own ways.	"By virtue of achieving this normalized concept of success, i'm categorized as "high functioning" autistic.
What is normal?  are you normal, am I normal is the kid you sit next to that may have autism normal.	"As Corder concludes, "there is no normality" we search for inventive structural stylistic contextual sets that will give, amid some pain, some peace of understanding or fruitful work or whatever one can find to live with"

Thoughts:  I thought this was an interesting essay. I liked that it was Heilker and Yergeau own voices throughout, and that they used their own stories to make their points.  I could connect with the reading because my mom works as a special education aid in an elementary school. I love going into school with her and talking to the kids because they always have such interesting stories and things to say. And they enjoy being listened to.  When this essay talked about labeling students I could relate to hearing about the different labels of students within the school.

Project #3

I would like to explore the discourse community of my dance studio. And argue how it is a discourse community. I have been taking dance lessons at the same studio for 15 years, all different styles. The studio itself has been owned an run my Wendy Streib for 50 years. I would like to interview past, and current members, as well as some of the teachers. I myself was a student teacher for 4 years. Dancing for Miss Wendy has been my life. Ill look at Swales characteristics for a discourse community, and I'll look at Gee "D" discourse how both fit in to the studio community.

Devitt

Devitt:

Before you read: List of ways I communicate during the day:  Conversations in person, Texting, Phone calls, Emails, Facebook posts and chat, Skype, Written letters, Blogging for english, reading books, reading the post.

Summary: Devitt's essay is about how genres impact a discourse community. She talks about how the people within the discourse community who know how the groups work are the ones that make up the genres. This makes it difficult for the people outside of the discourse community to understand the language. Devitt uses the example of the jury instructions, to the lawyers and judge in the court room understand the language used to instruct a jury because they are the once that make them up, and are used to the lingo, for a jury member understanding what exactly is being asked of them may be difficult because the language is complicated.

Synthesis: This can be related to Swales because he talks about how people can be in different discourse communities, and can go in and out of discourse communities. Devitt is talking about how genres can be in many communities, but it is the experts in the community that make up the genre. This could connect to Glenn in the since that some of the stuff Glenn talked about was hard to understand as a reader because I am not a part of that discourse community. Lastly this could relate to porters intertextuality.

Response	Quotation
with the up coming effection in a week, it would be important that voters go to the polls informed and know how to read the ballot, with many 18 year olds their first time voting ( like myself) it is something that should be talked about or read about.	"To have our votes count as we learned in the united states so vividly so recently, we must not only feel informed enough to be willing to walk into the voting booth; we must also be able to understand the ballot once we are in the booth"
This was something I had never heard of before and would not have know if I had not read this essay. This is an example of if you were not in the discourse community you wouldn't know about this restriction.	"The specialist know that drawing a line through one candidate's name will reder that ballot invalid, while the good citizen might know only that drawling a line is a known way to register displeasure."
I noticed this last year in my highschool law class, we ran a mock trial, after closing arguments were read then the jury was read the jury instruction once, and they were expected to undersand the difference between the 3 different charges. I thought this was unfair to the defense side because I had done the closing arguments presented all the reasons the crime wasnt a crime and my client was not guilty and then the jury came back with a guilty charge on the highest offence, afterwords we asked the jury why, and they said they didnt know the different between the two levels of crime.	"The genre thus has a significance for the legal community that it does not have for the jurors. As a result juries do not and cannot interpret the genre the way the creators intended as lawyers would and cannot render verdicts that follow those instructions fully and accurately, thus resulting in significant consequences, particularly for defendants"
	"the genre of jury instructions is meant to guide jurors in following that law."
the genres used in a discourse community are the communication paths of that community.	" to claim that genres are environmental within which familiar social actions are rhetorically enacted is to understand them as language practice."

MM: I dont think this type of field work really helps exploring discourse, I think that talking with the discourse group and studying it hands on is the best way to study it.

Thoughts:  I thought this was interesting, I never realized that being outside a discourse community would be so difficult when trying to understand the language.  I could connect to the law section of this essay because of the mock trial that my law class ran in highschool.