Summary:

In his article What is it we do when we write articles like this one, Michael Kleine, discusses an experiment he conducted based on a system of hunting and gathering. He first frames his article by explaining his hypothesis about heuristic method of research. Heuristic methodology is based of a problem solving pattern/ process. Throughout the course of the article he interviews different colleagues and their path to researching and writing an article such as the one he is writing. He targets the students that he sees and can tell are writing research papers in the "night library". He argues writing that includes research of any kind must be seen as being both strategic and heuristic.   In conclusion he is left with a contradiction, as he says he found his subjects to be similar in the way that they all started from a point of interest to them and by talking with their peers about the subject before starting. but they were also all different in the way they recalled their writing process. The processes varied according to discipline  personality, and ultimately their task at hand.

Synthesis:

Kleine's Article What is it we do when we write articles like this one, is mainly about using a combination of hunting/gathering. Finding information and discovering information. He also talks about the process in which one should begin to write their own paper, weather it should be starting with research or the writing itself and how to find a balance between the two. By incorporating both Greene's framing ideas from his article Argument as Conversation and Kleine's research ideas beginning to write a knowledgeable paper should become much easier.


Discussion and Journaling:

1. I feel that Kleine is talking about writing in away that is newer to me.  I feel like im more accustom to the linear stage models of the writing process, where you pre write, and then the outline or pre-write is suppose to guide you through the rest of your paper.

3. Kleine discusses the way each colleague has their own idea of how to research. I think the role of sources varies on each person he interviewed.  He mentions how the scientist use more procedure and methodology, empirical data gathering, and focus a lot more on the research itself. On the other hand the humanities tended to view writing and reading as the research, and the creative writer said he began his process with the writing itself. Personally, Ive always been one to try to work writing and the language of the paper directly with the research itself because both are important. but at the same time I tend to find all of my sources at the same time, so I know I have fulfilled the requirements of the paper.

4. I think if I were to follow what Kleine is talking about I would, follow more of the scientist path, and research first to better understand the topic. I think I would also start by finding a topic that is interesting enough that I want to learn more about, and maybe even bring the topic up in conversation among peer to see what their perceptions of the topic are to help me generate a starting point.

Thoughts:

I found Kleine's article very fascinating,  I had never thought about discovering my own research just by talking to people and making my own assumptions and putting together my own perspective about the topic. I feel like I will definitely use this in my next research paper.

Before you read: When looking at my syllabi for courses this semester I can see I have many papers that will occur this semester. At this point in time a imagine doing most of my research on the internet, looking at journals and scholarly articles about the topic, sifting through the information for what to use as sources. I think in order to accomplish the project I will need to become better at researching and using my sources to their potential.

Summary and Synthesis

Summary:

In Greene's article Argument as Conversation he discusses the difference between argument as a scholarly inquiry and an argument in everyday life.  The focus of the article is to emphasize the importance of focusing on a main subject under a much broader topic.  For example the metaphor used in the book is how a photographer will limit the focus of their picture to only the particular thing they want to see in the shot.  Much like in an article a writer would want to narrow his or her focus to specific thing inorder to make the conversation.

Synthesis:

After reading Swales and Greene's articles, CARS and Argument as conversation, I find that they both present similar points.  Both articles are about focusing on a particular topic versus the big picture. However, the two authors approach narrowing that focus in different ways.  Swales talks about finding a niche and explains his moves for doing so. His moves include, Establishing a territory, Establishing a niche, and finally occupying a Niche. Stuart Greene takes a different route. His theory is called framing the argument. Framing an argument allows the writer to express exactly the point he or she wants to make about a topic in a more organized way.

AE #2   I think that Green's article itself represents a conversation. A conversation with the reader.  He frames his argument by presenting reasons that framing is a useful tool when writing, I would say he practices what he preaches.  You can tell by reading his article that he uses language to keep the article engaging transitioning back and forth between writing styles and setting up the topics in advance.

#2 When looking at the oft-quoted passage by Kenneth Burke:  Green quotes it again to emphasize the idea that an argument is not something you can jump right into discussion about, it needs to be well gathered information, that is organized in a way that people can understand what you are discussing. Also I think it makes the point that with out all of the facts and information one can not fully understand all parts of the argument making it impossible to add your own ideas, unless you are completely educated on the subject matter.

The metaphor is that a guy comes into a parlor and hears a table of conversing going on they seem to being in a deep discusion about a topic, they are so far into the discussion that know one can explain in.  This presents writing in a way because when you are writing you need to make your arguments clear enough for everyone to follow even if they are just catching the tail end of your presentation or  paper. 

  #3 Framing: is a metaphor for describing the lens , or perspective, or the view point from which a writer will present their arguments.  The metaphor relates the way a writer uses language to the way a photographer frames a picture to portray the important parts of the photo. Framing allows a writer express the mood they want the reader to get from their article.